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Divx playback for Clie's!

Jul/12/2003 10:59 PM

MMPlayer has been updated to include Clie support meaning now Clie handhelds can have a full multimedia player on our machine that doesn't require files to be converted. The sound playback for the Clie's ain't all that great though (8kHz) since Sony won't release any info to developers on how to fully use the sound system (and for the fact that even though Palm OS 5 has a standard audio system built-in, Sony decided not to use it). Right now I am doing some experimenting converting a Divx movie into a 320x176 Divx file that will fit onto a 128MB Memory Stick. But the Memory Stick will only actually hold 123MB of files. I have the movie down to 125MB by using a Divx calculator and changing the bitrate to 164kB/sec and changing the audio to a 1kB/s MP3 stream (which translates to 8kHz mono audio). Then I chopped off most of the credits and the opening sequence that displayed the 20th Century Fox logo. Now I have to converting the video from 24-bit to 16-bit color since that all the Clie can display. Hey, looks liked it worked and the file is exactly 123MB. Hopefully this will all work now.

Up until now, the only way to get movies on the Clie was to use either an app called Kinoma or use the built-in Sony Movie Player. Kinoma's okay, but the file sizes are large since it uses the older Cinepak mobile compression. The Sony Movie Player plays MPEG-4 based movies, but the are in .MQV format. It is based on a Quicktime format and the only way to make the movies is to run it through an app called Image Convertor which will convert .MPG's, some .MOV's and some .AVI's. If the movie doesn't work, you have to use another app to do a 'pre-conversion'. I use QuickTime Pro for .MOV files and convert the files to .AVI format. I use VirtualDub for Divx files. One thing to note is, the audio has to be uncompressed for the Image Convertor to work. Basically all Divx movies have the audio compressed using MP3 and a lot of higher quality Quicktime videos have some form of compression too.
So, for a video to work, you have to run it through an app like VirtualDub, and then just totally guess on what kind of settings to use to output since the Image Convertor does a pretty good job of compressing, but it's hard to tell how much it will do, especially if you want to convert a full movie and fit it on a 128MB stick. (These movies are over 4GB in their original format.)

So, whats this got to do with native support for Divx on the Clie? Well, to fit a Divx movie onto a 128MB stick, it still needs to be converted since these movies are normally around 600-700MB so they will fit on CD. But, the good news is, I can tell exactly the setting I need to use to convert in VirtualDub, since there is only one conversion being done. I just use an app called Advanced Divx calculator, plugged in the movie length, size the outputted movie needs to be and audio bitrate and it tells me what bitrate to use for the video. Plug these settings into the Divx settings (leaving some leeway) and away it goes. Takes about an hour to do the full conversion on my PC (Athlon XP 2000, 1.6GHz).

8 Comments

Gravatar for James

Dude, how is your divx on your Clie going?

I recently bought a Clie NZ90... downloaded MMPlayer.. I Have a 256MB mem/stick.... and Im trying myself to get those 700MB divX movies to fit....

I have tried to playback the sample movie "Sabotage" on the MMPlayer site... but my PDA returns the error:
"Failed to open 'ext:1/SABOTAGE.AVI".
Failed to open input file."

Any ideas?

I wonder if I delete the built-in Movie Play software, whether my Video Camera on the NZ90 will still work.. hmmm

thanks
james

Gravatar for Cameron Bulock

James,

The main trick to getting movies to work on the Clie is using the app Virtual Dub on the PC and converting the audio. The audio must be 8,000Hz, 8-bit Mono to work on the Clies. The demo's at the mmplayer website are not in that format. And I tried getting that Sabotage video to work, but that video was encoded very strangely. I couldn't even get it to playback on my PC.
I haven't had success with every video I have tried, and each time it took about 5 or more to get a movie that worked properly in MMPlayer. Sometimes you have to adjust the audio interleaving, sometimes the framerate decimation has to be changed.
Also, make sure you are using the latest experimental beta, as the stable version doesn't work on Clies.
Good Luck!

Gravatar for Raul

I just picked up the new Kinoma. It just converted 30 min of anime to 64 megs at top resolution and stereo sound. It may be too large for your applications but I think the new version of Kinoma is a good choice for the price. I only have my old n760c but it works well with it.

Raul

Gravatar for Omicron

Please, excuse me for my poor english. (I'm Spanish)

I try to convert a film with VirtualDub, I configure de Video like you say, 8Khz. 8-bit and mono in VirtualDub.

MMplayer reproduce my film, but no the sound of film.

I'm using a NX70V Clie.

Have you any idea?

Thank You for all.

Salu2 ;)

Gravatar for justin elfrey

I am trying to convert the movie files that I have recorded on my Clie NX70V from MQV format to anything that will play on Windows Media Player, RealOne Player or Quicktime Player. What do I need to do? Thanks.

Gravatar for Cameron Bulock

Justin,

There is no conversion needed to playback the movies in Quicktime. Just make sure you have version 6 or newer. You can right-click the MQV files in Windows and tell it to open in Quicktime. You can also associate the .MQV file extension with Quicktime so you can just double-click the files to run them.

Gravatar for Oli

I am searching the web and cannot seem to find a software that can convert from the .mqv to .avi, mpeg, etc. The reason is, I am making a DVD with the movies that I made using my clie. any help will be greatly appreciated.

Gravatar for Cameron Bulock

I haven't tried this in a while, but I am fairly certain that Quicktime Pro is able to do this. The .mqv format is basicly a Quicktime MPEG-4 format. Unfortunately, the free Quicktime doesn't have any conversion abilty.

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